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Design School is a podcast for navigating the changing field of Design.

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Follow the evolution of the design practice through the experiences of designers.

Whether you’re an experienced designer trying to keep up or just starting out, learn from designers’ stories of how they’ve navigated the ever-changing field of Design.

Latest Episode

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Frank Chimero

on putting in the reps

On this episode, we talk with Frank Chimero, Creative Director at Fictive Kin, and author of the book The Shape of Design. Frank talks about how he found design by using it as a foothold to have a deeper relationship with the things he really enjoyed, how designers have the opportunity to teach a commitment and expectation of craft and quality to fellow disciplines, about the value in experience outside of efficiency, and how work and experiences are cyclical in nature.

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About the hosts

Seasons 1–now

Chad P. Hall

Chad is an Assistant Professor in Visual Communication Design at the University of Washington and a Creative Director at September Works. He loves talking with people about how they use design to shape the world. His professional practice has spanned work in technology, global health, and public policy with teams at organizations such as Google, Samsung, Gates Foundation, and USAFacts. Chad has spoken at design conferences around the world on design education, AI and collaboration, and information design. Learn more about Chad.

Seasons 1–6

Jp Avila

Jp is a designer, former educator, and the co-founder of This is Design School, serving as its co-host for the first six seasons. He is passionate about building collaborative teams that bring unique perspectives together to solve big-picture problems. For over 20 years, his work has bridged higher education and design practice, focusing on strategic thinking, visual communication, and mentoring the next generation. Though he has stepped back from the mic, his contributions have been integral to the foundation of the show. Learn more about Jp.

Jp’s Favorite Conversations

yr04 :: ep26

Michael Beirut

on luck

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yr06 :: ep43

Debbie Millman

on hope

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yr05 :: ep35

Megan Ruhlach & Quba Michalski

on designing space

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Chad’s Favorite Conversations

yr05 :: ep48

Frank Chimero

on putting in the reps

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yr04 :: ep28

Ruki Neuhold-Ravikumar

on telling design’s story

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yr05 :: ep36

Hugh Dubberly

on systems in design practice

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Chad’s Favorite Conversations

yr06 :: ep48

Frank Chimero

on putting in the reps

Listen now

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yr06 :: ep48

Frank Chimero

on putting in the reps

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Listen now

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yr05 :: ep36

Hugh Dubberly

on systems in design practice

Listen now

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yr05 :: ep36

Hugh Dubberly

on systems in design practice

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Listen now

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yr04 :: ep28

Ruki Neuhold-Ravikumar

on telling design’s story

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yr04 :: ep28

Ruki Neuhold-Ravikumar

on telling design’s story

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Listen now

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Jp’s Favorite Conversations

yr04 :: ep26

Michael Beirut

on luck

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yr04 :: ep26

Michael Beirut

on luck

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yr06 :: ep43

Debbie Millman

on hope

Listen now

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yr06 :: ep43

Debbie Millman

on hope

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Listen now

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yr05 :: ep35

Megan Ruhlach & Quba Michalski

on designing space

Listen now

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yr05 :: ep35

Megan Ruhlach & Quba Michalski

on designing space

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Interviewees

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Frank Chimero

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Mitzi Okou

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Catherine Lim & Jennifer Cheng

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Leisha Muraki

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Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo

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Debbie Millman

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In Memoriam: August de los Reyes

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August de los Reyes

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Annu Yadav

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Scott Tong

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Diane Lee

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Macbeth Watson

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Minnie Bredouw

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Hugh Dubberly

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Live: Megan Ruhlach & Quba Michalski

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Annabelle Gould

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Sheryl Cababa

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Jeff Barlow

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Sean Munson

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Timothy Bardlavens

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Silong Chhun

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Ruki Neuhold-Ravikumar

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Nicole Gleadle

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Michael Bierut

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Anna Brayton

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Jp Avila

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Michael Smith

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John Snavely

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Lance Kagey

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Gabri Joy Kirkendall

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Karen Gutowsky

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Erin Kendig

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Rebecca Stewart-Johnson

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Terry Marks

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Krista Fredricks

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Benjamin Shown

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Gage Mitchell & Jen Stewart

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Taylor Cox

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Karen Cheng

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Adriel Rollins

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Jon Cook

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Scott Ichikawa

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Ryan Applegate

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Matt Knorr

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Daniel Worthington

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Paige Pauli

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Brittany Staten

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Jessica Frongello

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Samuel Hosman

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Jp & Chad

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Interviewees

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ABC

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48

Frank Chimero

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47

Mitzi Okou

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46

Catherine Lim & Jennifer Cheng

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45

Leisha Muraki

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44

Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo

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43

Debbie Millman

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42

In Memoriam: August de los Reyes

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August de los Reyes

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41

Annu Yadav

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40

Scott Tong

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39

Diane Lee

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38

Macbeth Watson

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37

Minnie Bredouw

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36

Hugh Dubberly

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35

Live: Megan Ruhlach & Quba Michalski

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34

Annabelle Gould

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33

Sheryl Cababa

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32

Jeff Barlow

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31

Sean Munson

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30

Timothy Bardlavens

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29

Silong Chhun

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28

Ruki Neuhold-Ravikumar

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27

Nicole Gleadle

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26

Michael Bierut

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25

Anna Brayton

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24

Jp Avila

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23

Michael Smith

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22

John Snavely

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21

Lance Kagey

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20

Gabri Joy Kirkendall

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19

Karen Gutowsky

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18

Erin Kendig

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17

Rebecca Stewart-Johnson

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16

Terry Marks

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15

Krista Fredricks

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14

Benjamin Shown

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13

Gage Mitchell & Jen Stewart

→

12

Taylor Cox

→

11

Karen Cheng

→

10

Adriel Rollins

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09

Jon Cook

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08

Scott Ichikawa

→

07

Ryan Applegate

→

06

Matt Knorr

→

05

Daniel Worthington

→

04

Paige Pauli

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03

Brittany Staten

→

02

Jessica Frongello

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01

Samuel Hosman

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00

Jp & Chad

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Interviewees

ep#

↑

↓

ABC

↑

↓

48

Frank Chimero

→

47

Mitzi Okou

→

46

Catherine Lim & Jennifer Cheng

→

45

Leisha Muraki

→

44

Cynthia Lawson Jaramillo

→

43

Debbie Millman

→

42

In Memoriam: August de los Reyes

→

42

August de los Reyes

→

41

Annu Yadav

→

40

Scott Tong

→

39

Diane Lee

→

38

Macbeth Watson

→

37

Minnie Bredouw

→

36

Hugh Dubberly

→

35

Live: Megan Ruhlach & Quba Michalski

→

34

Annabelle Gould

→

33

Sheryl Cababa

→

32

Jeff Barlow

→

31

Sean Munson

→

30

Timothy Bardlavens

→

29

Silong Chhun

→

28

Ruki Neuhold-Ravikumar

→

27

Nicole Gleadle

→

26

Michael Bierut

→

25

Anna Brayton

→

24

Jp Avila

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23

Michael Smith

→

22

John Snavely

→

21

Lance Kagey

→

20

Gabri Joy Kirkendall

→

19

Karen Gutowsky

→

18

Erin Kendig

→

17

Rebecca Stewart-Johnson

→

16

Terry Marks

→

15

Krista Fredricks

→

14

Benjamin Shown

→

13

Gage Mitchell & Jen Stewart

→

12

Taylor Cox

→

11

Karen Cheng

→

10

Adriel Rollins

→

09

Jon Cook

→

08

Scott Ichikawa

→

07

Ryan Applegate

→

06

Matt Knorr

→

05

Daniel Worthington

→

04

Paige Pauli

→

03

Brittany Staten

→

02

Jessica Frongello

→

01

Samuel Hosman

→

00

Jp & Chad

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About the Podcast

Design School sits down with designers to talk about how design is changing, what they’ve accomplished in their journey, and what they wish to do with their precious time.

Designers Chad P. Hall and Jp Avila originally developed the podcast in 2014 to expand the design conversation, provide a voice to the next generation of designers, and offer a realistic look at the many forms of modern design education. Today, the show continues to document how the industry is shifting through the stories of those actively shaping it.

Design School is recorded in the field where design happens.

“…ASKING thoughtful, measured questions that cut to the central issues of design…”

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